D8: Gonna be great D8: We're playing catch up Get out in front of changes, prepare for them now What will the market want/need/look like in 2020? What will the tech be in 2020? Dries: Push web Decoupled CMSes (need source for growth) Headless (Often many requests) Real time web (websockets, SSE) None of those work well now: - Push on queue? Now you're doing async badly - Decoupled: Need many requests, diff caching. Really want a lighter bootstrap - Real time: Needs persistent connection, daemon => The problem is CGI. Need to move away from CGI. PHP w/out CGI??? - PHP 5.3: daemons actually work, RAM-wise - Have sockets - React PHP, async, fast, websockets - Icicle.io, generators - Process forking? We will need this in 2020. But which? All or nothing? No idea? How do we prepare for what we don't know? Stateless code. Isolated IO (to replace) No container-aware (need different container). .. The same good clean code we've been after for a long time.